Low messes up the bicycle frame, but medium/high/xhigh/max all get the bicycle frame right.
The max one took 5 minutes 9 seconds and cost 3.3826 cents. The cheapest one (low) cost 0.0936 cents and took 7 seconds.
The most recent release of my llm-anthropic plugin queries the Anthropic model listing API directly, so I didn't have to upgrade the plugin to add support for this model:
I think your test is already embedded into the models. You should search for new frontier tests to subject the models to. Maybe they should now try to unify the standard model and general relativity in physics. I'm pretty sure this is nowhere to be found in any training data nor shared in any chat between a scientist and a LLM ;)
simonw 17 minutes ago [-]
The fact that they've heard of the test doesn't seem to help them draw a good picture of a pelican riding a bicycle.
ozgung 3 hours ago [-]
Of course, the sun again. Everyone knows that a pelican can't ride a bicycle without a sun in the frame and can only go right.
accrual 3 hours ago [-]
I wonder if we'll start to see pelicans like a mascot of sorts. You could have a pelican pin on your backpack.
> "What's up with the pelican?"
Well you see in the early days of LLMs we wanted a fun way to test new models, and there was this blog, ...
snowram 2 hours ago [-]
Will Smith eating spaghetti is the OG benchmark
kenhwang 28 minutes ago [-]
The grass too, everyone knows bikes ride on grass.
cortesoft 1 hours ago [-]
The medium thinking effort one doesn't have a sun at all?
Jcampuzano2 2 hours ago [-]
I always find the time/token differences between the xhigh and the max effort levels for Claude models absolutely insane.
Even more so, because in a lot of their benchmarks they use the max models. I honestly think I'd rather these labs use their xhigh models as the default for benchmarking instead since I don't think the average person is even using max.
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mudkipdev 1 hours ago [-]
Benchmarks are the entire reason why max exists
LoganDark 2 hours ago [-]
I use max all the time, a bit annoyed that they keep trying to silently switch me off it. (Claude Code will refuse to remember a setting of max and will continually reset it to xhigh - I have an objection to these patterns in general)
I'm definitely not the average person though.
abustamam 1 hours ago [-]
I say half facetiously - have you tried writing a skill or rule to remember your setting as a workaround?
I actually don't like that it sometimes remembers the last model/effort i used. I should be able to set a default model/effort that is separate from the one off fable runs I use.
LoganDark 1 hours ago [-]
I thought the thinking effort was specified out of band from that, though maybe it's not. Not sure if the model was trained to listen in other areas. The biggest issue is, it's difficult to tell if it works because you can no longer see the thinking! Though I guess if you can't tell a difference in the output, was there any point to max in the first place?
zahlman 2 hours ago [-]
I'm still getting network errors. Seems to be CORS-related.
ijidak 3 hours ago [-]
I find it helpful when you post your link that compares the model to other models in the same class or family, or shows progression over time.
The pelicans all start to look the same after a while.
But seeing the comparison to other models by class, family, or historical progression gives an excellent frame of reference.
Pardon, I have a lot of questions about that Scrimshaw music text format. It's clever. Did you invent it, and is it specifically intended to be written to by LLMs? Is the editor/player LLM-coded as well, and was this its recommendation for a format that would be easy for LLMs to write? I'm wondering why this instead of say, asking it to write a .MOD file.
simonw 15 minutes ago [-]
Opus invented it, and wrote the player, and the songs.
My prompts were:
> I want you to write some computer game music for me. First design simple text based format for the music and build an artifact that can play it out loud - include some example tracks in that artifact
> I am looking for music of the quality of the original secret of Monkey Island
And then later:
> Modify scrimshaw jukebox to add a copy-paste prompt that explains the music format, it should be shown at the bottom of the page below the readable instructions, the prompt should be designed to help any LLM tool compose music in the correct format. It should have a copy to clipboard button.
the "monkey island"-musc makes me so sad. why would anyone make an AI do this when it took such craft. i hope you all die :'(
simonw 12 minutes ago [-]
That's a bit extreme.
I think the music from the original is art, and I have enormous respect for it - I can still hum some of those tunes out loud thirty years later.
The "music" in my demo helps show that text-based LLMs can do a passable job of composing simple 90s-era imitations of computer game music. That's interesting, because most people don't like not expect a text LLM to be able to do that.
jansan 4 hours ago [-]
They are really good at generating artifacts, which are windows within the replies containing all kind of visualization, often interactive.
They are still not great at SVG. I just asked Opus and Fable to add a background to an SVG and the results were, well, not great.
mayli 3 hours ago [-]
SVG is hard.
hazelnut 3 hours ago [-]
Tried it with GPT-6 Astra with Ultra but the outcome was underwhelming with Blender. Maybe it was my prompting ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
vunderba 3 hours ago [-]
I’ve been playing around with Opus 5.5 which has made a big leap over previous generations in its ability to use a simple drawing-instruction prompt to generate images.
This creates Sierra AGI-style adventure game scenes painted live from simple Turtle-esque drawing instructions so you can basically provide it an empty canvas and then position text labels on the canvas where you want certain things (tavern, oak tree, etc) and it will generate a custom script for rendering them in a EGA graphics style.
They generate svg. You can paste in pngs and they'll convert them to svg with varying degrees of success.
sixtyj 3 hours ago [-]
They don’t do raster images.
1ucky 4 hours ago [-]
Those are SVGs not images.
jonshariat 4 hours ago [-]
SVG is code
sixothree 3 hours ago [-]
I've created multiple videos using Claude Code, including music and speech. It generates python which in turn generates frame PNGs that it runs through ffmpeg.
Please don't judge me too harshly for this particular poop video. But here is an example of something 100% generated with claude prompts only.
To clarify the ”100%” part - the Python script generated the video output, and you did nothing? No video edit at all?
Then I think it is impressive! Are you able to share the prompts you used?
sixothree 2 hours ago [-]
Source code is linked from the video! Scan the QR code. I will try to /resume tonight and give you some prompts.
cruffle_duffle 2 hours ago [-]
I mean Claude code sessions are all jsonl files that it can interrogate on its own. Get a new agent to capture how it was made and what the prompts were. No need for tedious /resume’ing and prompting.
Bluestein 2 hours ago [-]
The Purple Screen of Death at the end :)
fakedang 4 hours ago [-]
They're SVGs
ghoshbishakh 4 hours ago [-]
Bruh. Svg. It is like drawing something with geometric shapes which are represented using equations.
jsolson 2 hours ago [-]
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minimaxir 6 hours ago [-]
Pricing is...a bit weird.
Input
$0.10 / MTok for prompts up to 100,000 tokens
$0.50 / MTok for prompts over 100,000 tokens
Output
$0.50 / MTok for prompts up to 100,000 tokens
$2.50 / MTok for prompts over 100,000 tokens
100k tokens is an absurdly low cutoff and it is only applicable to Haiku and not Sonnet or Opus. It's a low enough cutoff that it will be quickly exceeded if you are doing anything with Agents; for typical generation or Jev-like classifiers, it's a good value and as noted in this article, that is apparently the vast majority of Haiku use.
In both cases, still much cheaper than Haiku 4.5's $1 input / $5 output and these prices better compete with GPT-6 Luna. ($0.10 input / $0.50 output, but with no token threshold [EDIT: the threshold for Luna is apparently 272k])
dannyw 5 hours ago [-]
Haiku 5.5 is noticeably smarter than GPT-6 Luna, so I can see their pricing strategy here.
For a while Anthropic has lacked a cost effective “cheap” LLM for summarisation, compacting, RAG helpers, etc.
These ‘ephemeral’ workloads are often under 100k tokens, or can be structured to be under 100k.
In some coding benchmarks, Haiku 5.5 beats Sonnet 5! (Especially implementation; do a well defined Jira ticket; etc), it’s really impressive how much intelligence per dollar has grown in just a few short months.
RussianCow 2 hours ago [-]
I said this in another comment, but Artificial Analysis has the cost per task of Haiku on max roughly equal to that of Sol on medium, and the latter is significantly more intelligent. (And I'd wager that Sol probably finishes tasks more quickly, even with Haiku inference being faster.) So Haiku really only makes sense on lower reasoning levels, and only if you care about intelligence and speed more than you do about cost effectiveness (where Luna currently dominates). And that's without even bringing Chinese models into the mix.
WinstonSmith84 5 hours ago [-]
noticeably smarter remains to be seen in practice. For now, Haiku is a bit more expensive than Luna on < 100k token, but I just don't have any agentic work below 100k, so this is going to be 5x more expensive than shown on these charts. It's hardly competitive ...
flockonus 3 hours ago [-]
> it’s really impressive how much intelligence per dollar has grown in just a few short months.
Open weights models giving a distant salute from afar
pimeys 2 hours ago [-]
Yes, it was weird to see MiMo and DeepSeek missing in the article's comparison...
RussianCow 2 hours ago [-]
It's not that weird. Most companies considering paying Anthropic are probably not considering Chinese models as alternatives. Many don't even realize they exist.
doodlesdev 1 hours ago [-]
The thing is: availability of near-SOTA cheap Chinese models is forcing OAI and Anthropic to bring prices down and offer more efficient models, instead of simply focusing on super expensive SOTA LLMs.
RussianCow 21 minutes ago [-]
Is it? I would guess that it's much more about the race to get customers as they both near IPO than anything to do with the Chinese models.
verdverm 18 minutes ago [-]
we are actively preparing to move our devs from closed to open models, take it as a piece of anecdata
epolanski 1 hours ago [-]
"companies" is a meaningless metric.
If you want to make it about 99% of real world companies, they are all on Gemini or Copilot anyway, nobody is going through legal and procurement to get models from dubious silicon valley startups when you have relations with Microsoft or Google or Amazon from ages because some benchmark is showing some minor digit benefit when vibe coding GTA 6.
RussianCow 27 minutes ago [-]
I said "most companies considering paying Anthropic", which is not the same as "most companies". I also don't agree that "nobody" is doing this; I have lots of anecdata suggesting otherwise. Maybe the majority of companies are using the easy option of Copilot or Gemini like you said, but it's nowhere near 99%.
tranceylc 56 minutes ago [-]
Vibe coding gta 6 haha
stavros 49 minutes ago [-]
Is Mimo good? I've never tried it, but I've seen it mentioned three times in this subthread alone. DSv4.1 is my daily driver.
JacobAsmuth 3 hours ago [-]
The benchmarks are very long form logic, knowledge, and coding tasks though. I'm very interested in Haiku 5.5's performance on ObviousBench where Luna 6 is currently SotA.
Tiberium 5 hours ago [-]
There's also a tokenizer efficiency difference: modern Claude's 100K tokens are about ~60-65K modern GPT tokens, so in reality the Luna cutoff is much further away than the Haiku one.
> ...this tokenizer, the same input text produces approximately 30% more tokens on Claude Haiku 5.5 than on Claude Haiku 4.5.
So, it is might be even worse.
Tiberium 5 hours ago [-]
No, it's just Haiku 4.5 is so old that it predates the new Claude tokenizer change in Claude 4.7+
jeremyjh 2 hours ago [-]
If you can't get any coding done with 100K context that is either a broken model, a broken harness or a skill issue. I would mostly use Haiku in task or explorer subagents. I'm not saying I stay under that on every task, but I do have quite a few sessions that cap out well below that, so that price difference would be very meaningful.
I use Luna for this day in and out and its excellent - if Haiku is that much better I will be changing things up.
serf 1 hours ago [-]
>If you can't get any coding done with 100K context that is either a broken model, a broken harness or a skill issue.
"less context is better and if you can't get stuff done with less yur bad" is the worst argument ever.
it might be pure luxury to your eyes, but it's great to not require the use of a special custom harness that transcribes everything into emoji and compresses everything into barcode images.
it's great to have a million token context to throw a large project into. If I need 100k just about any current gen consumer GPU in the world has very good models that I can self host for 100k context, limiting myself to 100k on someone elses machine seems to be missing a lot of the point unless the model itself is extraordinary.
Eridrus 6 hours ago [-]
It's actually existing flat per-token pricing that is weird.
Neither encode nor decode are linear in compute, so providers need to price for average expected length.
This is just getting closer to the true cost of generating tokens.
foota 4 hours ago [-]
My theory here is that providers cover the non-constant costs of output tokens as context length caries using the cache input fees.
hgoel 3 hours ago [-]
Flat per-token pricing is likely just logistically easier, particularly if these closed models are also picking up the kv cache efficiency improvements seen in recent open weight models.
sebzim4500 4 hours ago [-]
Flat pricing is weird too but jumping up 5x at one cutoff is surprising in the other direction IMO
HarHarVeryFunny 5 hours ago [-]
Notable that one suggested use case for Haiku is "classification requests", i.e. Jev competitor, and the pricing matches GPT-6 Luna which is behind OpenAI's "Decisions API" Jev competitor.
For this application 100K token input is plenty.
Of course Anthropic and OpenAI, both at $0.10/M, are still 2.5x the cost of Jev's $0.04/M.
martianvoid 5 hours ago [-]
I think the 2.5 times cost but actually pays off in terms of intelligence compared to jev and the general capability of using it beyond classification
HarHarVeryFunny 5 hours ago [-]
The classification performance remains to be seen, but presumably we'll soon start to see classification benchmarks.
For other tasks like summaries (another suggested usage) it's good to see Haiku and Luna now competing against each other on cost.
I'd love to know how the business automation market breaks down by volume of call type though - hard to imagine that decision making (e.g. branching, triage) isn't a very large part of it, greater than these other suggested Haiku use cases.
alexchamberlain 4 hours ago [-]
Isn't it less than a year since Claude models went from 100k token limit to 1M limit? Don't get me wrong - my main agent normally gets to 25% or so before I clear it these days, but as a subagent, doing research or summarisation, I don't think 100k is "absurdly low".
tr4656 6 hours ago [-]
Luna does as well, but just at a higher limit.
From OpenAI's website: Prompts with more than 272K input tokens are priced at 2x input and cache rates and 1.5x output for the full request.
So even at the 1.5x/2x rate luna is still half the price of this. Weird pricing strategy from Anthropic. I'm sticking with Luna if I don't need a super smart model
usef- 3 hours ago [-]
You're judging purely by token cost I assume, not cost per completed task?
The benchmark in the article showed it as lower per completed task than luna, but I guess we'll find out how representative that is. Anthropic has generally been fairly honest in their benchmarking though.
RussianCow 2 hours ago [-]
The cost per task from Artificial Analysis is roughly 3x higher at every reasoning effort level for Haiku than Luna. Sol 6.1 on medium has the same cost per task as Haiku with significantly higher intelligence. According to those numbers (which you should take with a grain of salt), from a pure cost vs intelligence standpoint, you're better off using Luna for economics and Sol for intelligence.
With that said, the real reason to use Haiku is that it's faster than all of these models. OpenRouter is showing an average so far of 93 tokens/sec, and AA got at least 137 in each of their benchmarks. So it might be valuable for speed at lower thinking levels. (At higher thinking levels, it's likely going to take longer to produce results than Sol on low/medium.)
yes, that's true. I should be looking at the $/completed task
port3000 5 hours ago [-]
They are targeting businesses/API use for fast decision making and agent integration. Plus they now need to be competitive with Jev-type models in that space.
cogman10 3 hours ago [-]
I think they are also trying to make sure Deepseek and other chinese models don't eat their lunch. They need something price competitive.
mkotlikov 3 hours ago [-]
If you look at how different reasoning levels can easily exceed task cost of sonnet 5.5 you will see that you will basically never fall into that under 100,000 token threshold. I mean maybe you can choose low and do a basic summary task, but then you could choose something much cheaper instead. I don't know what Anthropic is thinking with its dumber models.
mnicky 5 hours ago [-]
You could also use it as a subagent prompted eg by Sonnet/Opus orchestrator agent and for many agentic workflows significant part of the dispatched tasks might be under 100k budget.
giancarlostoro 6 hours ago [-]
I with they'd give Haiku like 400k tokens roughly, I think between 400k or even 600k tokens is a sweet spot, but Haiku is basically designed to be for small edits is my understanding, but it sucks because any time I ask Opus to "try" letting Haiku do the work, it just falls apart and Opus comes back and tells me it switched to Sonnet (even before Sonnet finally jumped up to 5.x).
I will try the new Haiku, but it would be worthwhile if Haiku could take sane instructions and do all file editing for Opus / Sonnet / Fable then it would be worth using.
enraged_camel 5 hours ago [-]
>> 100k tokens is an absurdly low cutoff and it is only applicable to Haiku and not Sonnet or Opus. It's a low enough cutoff that it will be quickly exceeded if you are doing anything with Agents
Your vibes don't appear to be supported by facts. From the announcement:
>> Claude Haiku 5.5 is priced 90% lower than Claude Haiku 4.5 for requests up to 100,000 tokens, and 50% lower for requests over 100,000 tokens. On Haiku 4.5, 90% of requests fell into the former category.
Philpax 5 hours ago [-]
People weren't using Haiku 4.5 for agents before. 5.5 is good enough that it might be.
amgutier 2 hours ago [-]
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StilesCrisis 5 hours ago [-]
Haiku 4.5 users were using it for Kleenex requests because that was the best it could do.
enraged_camel 4 hours ago [-]
Not really. We use Haiku 4.5 to turn users' natural language queries and requests into fairly complex structured specs for interior design and construction. It has near perfect accuracy.
dotancohen 3 hours ago [-]
How many examples are in your prompt? How large is that prompt? Or do you have some other way of tuning the output?
I'm asking to learn for a similar project, not to discount anything you're saying.
insanitybit 5 hours ago [-]
I mostly use Haiku for really, really basic stuff, never for actual engaging work. I've used it for first-pass analysis to triage bugs, for example - all it does is related N bugs together to see if any potentially relate. Then I have Sonnet investigate further.
solenoid0937 1 hours ago [-]
This is pretty good tbh
sixtyj 3 hours ago [-]
Chatbot could be < 100k tokens.
AustinDev 5 hours ago [-]
encode and decode tok/s which is ($/s) when it comes to pricing drops heavily above 100k tokens.
There are plenty of workflows like translations where you'd easily be under the cap.
system2 5 hours ago [-]
Who in their right mind would use haiku while Mimo or GLM cost 10% of what they are charging with much smarter models?
mrngld 5 hours ago [-]
That's not what any benchmarks that look at cost per task or similar says in terms of cost. The Chinese models, generally speaking, might be cheaper per token but need a lot more tokens to get there.
RussianCow 2 hours ago [-]
Except for the new MiMo V2.6 models, which appear to give some of the best value right now, at least on paper. (I haven't tried them so I can't speak from experience.)
wyrdcurt 5 hours ago [-]
Some people/organizations are ideologically opposed to using Chinese models. Not me, I use GLM-5.3-Flash for almost everything (the subscription-subsidized pricing on a legacy Z.ai plan makes it the best value model by a wide margin), along with some MiMo and DeepSeek. Still, I use Luna for certain tasks where speed is more valuable than performance; I can see this new Haiku displacing Luna for those. If you mean Haiku 4.5 though I agree, that model was a waste of time and money.
pimeys 2 hours ago [-]
Luna is not really the fastest. You need to use it in high/max to get the good output for what it is good for: summarizing. And that is already close to two minutes per task...
girvo 2 hours ago [-]
I’m on the Legacy v2 plan and same: nothing comes close to 5.3 Flash’s value on it. It’s crazy, no wonder they discontinued them!
nharada 2 hours ago [-]
Isn't the point of this release that it's comparable?
AAI Index // Input // Output
Haiku 5.5: 43 // $0.10 // $0.50
Mimo 2.6 Pro: 46 // $0.43 // $0.87
Mimo 2.6 Flash: 38 // $0.10 // $0.28
Seems competitive to me? Plus then I don't have to manage multiple providers
user43928 5 hours ago [-]
Presumably everyone who doesn't bother integrating a third party API key into their harness, which would probably be most of the Claude Code users.
pkulak 3 hours ago [-]
Where do you get this 10% number? Checking providers I know/respect, and GLM 5.3 flash is $0.15/m. Haiku is $0.10/m.
usef- 3 hours ago [-]
On subscription pricing a $20 Anthropic subscription gives >$500 equivalent tokens, which is not so different, and you get smarter models. API pricing has decent margins.
And Opus 5.5 is really good.
skeledrew 5 hours ago [-]
Well, unless you're using OpenCode Go, it's per-token costs (even if already super low), while Haiku falls under the Claude sub. It's just more straight forward and you aren't feeling a "loss" with the sub.
aesthesia 5 hours ago [-]
There really aren't any models at 10% of the price of Luna or Haiku.
ray_kay777 3 hours ago [-]
People who are stuck using Bedrock in-geo due to their company policy (me).
esafak 5 hours ago [-]
It's their creative way of 'matching' Luna's prices.
j45 6 hours ago [-]
It could be to incentivize people to not be lazy users of tokens.
9x cheaper than Haiku 4.5 and 2 letter grades better. It's also now the fastest model (using the default speeds, not trying any of the other models "Fast" mode) to complete the exam.
Similar ballpark to Luna in price, cost, and accuracy. These are very cheap models: $0.38 to answer 40 in-depth data analytics questions (compared to $15 for Opus 5.5 or $20 for Astra).
Overall very good at data analysis - handling all of the straightforward data analytics questions correctly. It fell short answering some of the questions that required some deeper statistical analysis like looking into other variables. In other words, it's not as persistent as other models in its analysis, which I think we'd expect from how they're positioning the model.
Compared to OpenAI: GPT-6 Luna did a bit better and was about 30% the cost of Haiku 5.5. GPT-6.1 Sol got all answers correct, but was 10x more expensive.
charlesabarnes 5 hours ago [-]
> Second, this week, we’ll roll out a new monthly API credit to all Max and Team subscribers for use on the Claude Platform. Max 5x users will get $100 in credits per month, Max 20x users will get $200, and Team subscribers will receive up to $500, pooled across their users
This is a very big benefit for me. I can now ship actual ai enhanced features behind my subscription without paying extra or fully relying on on-device models. I do worry that this is to soften the blow for user-unfriendly changes
thepasch 5 hours ago [-]
This is them sneaking in taking the Claude Agent SDK (claude -p) off of subscription plans through the back door along with a model release. They previously wanted to do this in June, but backpedaled after huge backlash:
Sorry that that help center article was misleading; we’ve updated it to clarify that `claude -p` has not been removed from subscriptions as part of this change!
thepasch 1 hours ago [-]
That's super encouraging to hear, thank you for the clarification! I'd edit my original comment, but the edit window has unfortunately run out on it. Should be OK, though, since the help desk page is now explicit about it.
AISnakeOil 54 minutes ago [-]
They changed this from earlier today...
It's still very confusing.
verdverm 11 minutes ago [-]
one day they might realize the importance of reading llm output... maybe?
tekacs 4 hours ago [-]
I hope people notice again that this is happening this time around.
Being forced through the non-OSS Claude Code with all of its quirks and issues is... such an exhausting use of force by Anthropic.
To the extent that you _can_ choose to disable telemetry and training on your traces in CC, it's not all that obvious what they gain by crippling your ability to use the subscription with other – better – tools.
It's also remarkable that it's coincident with OpenAI adding "Sign in with OpenAI", so that you can use your tokens with other tools.
eli 4 hours ago [-]
The page does not say anything about changing the way Agent SDK bills. I just tested Agent SDK and nothing has changed (yet).
You might be right and they will change this in the future, but that's speculative
thepasch 4 hours ago [-]
> Claude Max and Team plans now include monthly API credits, which cover the Claude Agent SDK, the Claude API, and Claude Managed Agents.
This text has replaced the entirety of the page called "Use the Claude Agent SDK with your Claude plan."
eli 3 hours ago [-]
Yes. Previously the page was all about how they were going to start charging for Agent SDK use with a banner on the top saying that, actually, they weren't going to do that.
thepasch 3 hours ago [-]
...yes, a banner which has also now disappeared and been replaced, with the explicit mention that API credits "cover the Claude Agent SDK"?
What more do you need?
eli 3 hours ago [-]
Well, it doesn't currently work that way on the latest SDK. If there's a change coming, it hasn't happened yet.
thepasch 3 hours ago [-]
The monthly credit allocation hasn't rolled out yet either, so as of right now, we're effectively at the status quo. I'd expect the billing change to land once you can actually collect your Claude Console account.
cjav_dev 1 hours ago [-]
How credits work with `claude -p` is a common question. we're updating the faq now to make sure it's more clear
Those mfers. I'm using this for work! I use my work teams plan with pi so I can do all kinds of custom workflows that I can't in Claude Code. Time to convince management I need OpenAI instead.
stsch 4 hours ago [-]
Time to convince management (and yourself) to build some skills. :)
stavros 23 minutes ago [-]
Yeah there's no way in hell you're going to convince management to pay 10x for the same work because "human skills".
sanex 4 hours ago [-]
Spent many years building skills, I'm just working on a different level now.
sambaumann 5 hours ago [-]
Even after the June changes there was some allowance to use agent SDK on the pro plan. This will move me to codex tomorrow if agent SDK is really blocked on pro
luketaylor 2 hours ago [-]
Nothing is being removed as part of this!
winwang 2 hours ago [-]
*For now. If a company were to degrade something, it shouldn't be so obvious that the "goodwill" was just a reallocation. Just a good strategy. For example, it allows them to claim that they're "just going from 150% to 125% usage allowance, which is still more than 100%".
vmg12 3 hours ago [-]
These are api tokens, you can build a business with them using any harness.
tekacs 3 hours ago [-]
Yes, but they're wildly lower in value than the corresponding subscription usage.
martinald 5 hours ago [-]
Do we know if claude -p is now drawing from this API usage?
cjav_dev 1 hours ago [-]
How credits work with `claude -p` is a common question we're seeing. we're updating the faq now to make sure it's more clear. Will share updated docs soon
This is literally for you to get tangled in their api and when they stop giving you the allowance they hope you will just continue to pay
losvedir 5 hours ago [-]
Nah, it's pretty trivial to switch providers (especially with Claude's help, ha).
This is more to encourage people to try out adding AI into their product, which is a totally different flow and experience from using AI to build the product.
eli 3 hours ago [-]
Or to discourage people from using cheap subscription tokens as part of automated workflows
tomjen3 5 hours ago [-]
That's an old tactic for an old world. You only need, what, half an hour with your agent of choice to write you out of that?
enraged_camel 5 hours ago [-]
What does "tangled in their api" mean? Switching is pretty easy.
charcircuit 5 hours ago [-]
Not really, you have to fiddle with generating api keys and setting environment variables. Meanwhile with Anthropic it will just start charging you API prices for the tokens you are generating without even a single warning.
enraged_camel 5 hours ago [-]
>> Not really, you have to fiddle with generating api keys and setting environment variables.
That's 5-15 minutes of work at most. Not exactly the type of lock-in the parent is implying.
charcircuit 5 hours ago [-]
The user could have always done that regardless of if the user has the option to be charged API rates on or off.
Topfi 5 hours ago [-]
This is massive. So on top of the regular usage, we now have USD 200,- to freely use via the API however we please, even resell? That is a statement, even knowing that inference does not cost them nearly as much as they charge, this is very developer-friendly. Does some minor de-risking for testing concepts. Terms seem to be reasonable [0].
Of course, they don't do this out of pure kindness, but I really struggle to see a negative for subscribers already using a Claude Max subscription, especially given changing to another model is essentially frictionless via OpenRouter.
Compared with "Sign in via OpenAI" which they just announced, this is far less lock-in for anyone hosting services but less interesting for users of said services. With Anthropics approach, you can just use the allowance on your users however you see fit along with any other models and once it's used up, you can still just decide not to use their models for the remainder. With users bringing their tokens meanwhile, there is less flexibility in terms of switching for you, though might be cheaper for users.
Both interesting, each approaching this from a very different direction, each having their own trade-offs. On the OpenAI front, will be interesting whether developers can set specific temp, reasoning budgets, etc. for such "provided tokens" or whether OpenAI exposes that only via the actual API.
OpenAI will probably add this to their plans within a week
alasano 5 hours ago [-]
With OpenAI you can just use Oauth and get a token to use your subscription.
Anthropic isn't even close to being this useful.
Iolaum 5 hours ago [-]
Biggest reason for an OAI subscription instead of Ant imo.
Biggest loss is that Ant models look like they are genuinely better.
matsz 5 hours ago [-]
> Biggest loss is that Ant models look like they are genuinely better.
This changes on a weekly basis, I ended up with subscriptions to most of the providers (except for X.ai).
simonw 4 hours ago [-]
My complaint about Haiku 4.5 was that it was 10x the price of GPT-6 Luna.
> Claude Haiku 5.5 is priced 90% lower than Claude Haiku 4.5 for requests up to 100,000 tokens, and 50% lower for requests over 100,000 tokens
Haiku and Luna now have the exact same price up to 100,000 tokens. Luna is now cheaper for anything after 100,000 tokens, even after Luna's own price increases at 270,000 it's still less than Haiku.
So it sounds like they've directly addressed that problem. Their self-reported benchmarks are all higher than Luna too.
janalsncm 17 minutes ago [-]
If we look at their performance per dollar charts,
In OSWorld 2.1 Haiku is better.
On GDPval-AA v2.1 Haiku is equal or worse than Luna.
On Humanity’s Last Exam they don’t seem even be comparing Haiku with Luna.
For these baby distillations of flagships, I expect their users to be very price sensitive.
mrbungie 4 hours ago [-]
Yep. I was looking at the prices of lower tier models a few weeks ago for zero/few shot tasks (pre Jev) and Haiku rates just didn't make sense at all. I ended up using 5.6-luna.
Good to know that is going back to being an actual option from perf/price perspective.
lightbendover 2 hours ago [-]
They do not, however, have the same price per task or task execution ability at any thinking level. Token cost alone is not a sufficient metric.
jjcm 5 hours ago [-]
Ran image -> html tests for this. I was curious if this smaller model was good enough for complex UI. It was not.
One interesting thing is it took a look at the job at hand, and immediately delegated it to Opus 5.5. It at least knows what it isn't good at. Very fast though, and likely best used for small subagent tasks / tightly scoped work.
thefourthchime 5 hours ago [-]
Pac-Man Bench:
Considering the price, no model comes close to being as good as this. However, it did take an extremely long time.
Interesting that you have gpt-6-luna at $0.01 vs. claude-haiku-5-5 at $0.16 for this task. I see the score disparity though and I played them briefly. My takeaway from this is that the choice between Luna and Haiku 5.5 may remain nuanced. Luna may be a lot cheaper still and good enough for some jobs. Is that your read of the results?
thefourthchime 3 hours ago [-]
Actually, I misspoke. At least as far as Pac-Man Bench, Luna does about as good of a job. The ghost logic's not quite as good, but it also makes a map that doesn't have nonsensical sections in it. So maybe call it a wash.
myzie 3 hours ago [-]
Yeah, I was mainly thinking about how much cheaper Luna appeared to be in this case.
rpcope1 4 hours ago [-]
Something is not right there. DSv4.1 flash shows $1.89 for tens of thousands of tokens? What am I missing?
onlyrealcuzzo 5 hours ago [-]
How have you avoided being sued by Namco?
thefourthchime 4 hours ago [-]
I'm pretty sure they'll never see this. It's pretty much impossible for anything you do you build nowadays to get noticed anyways.
sparklingmango 4 hours ago [-]
> likely best used for small subagent tasks / tightly scoped work.
Hasn't this always been the case with Haiku?
saretup 5 hours ago [-]
To be fair, you're making it compete with the best public LLM right now that's 2 size/price tiers above it.
jjcm 4 hours ago [-]
Sure, but presumably Haiku was distilled from the same training data. Part of this is seeing how much the capabilities degrade as their model size goes down.
BrokenCogs 5 hours ago [-]
Neither of these look "good" to me. There is so much visual noise on the page, like someone turned the "AI Slop" dial to 11. In fact I prefer the simpler design Haiku made.
twostorytower 5 hours ago [-]
It's not really about whether the design looks good. It's about if the model can take the design given to it and replicate it in code. Opus 5.5 matches the designs almost to the pixel. Haiku built something else entirely.
BrokenCogs 5 hours ago [-]
I guess I'm giving GP feedback about their product diffui.ai, not really about Opus' performance.
jjcm 5 hours ago [-]
Totally fair, but I'd encourage you not to look at the design so much as the task. This was a design that's part of a benchmark test suite specifically for image->html conversion. The dense visual noise / complexity / flowing svg shapes are things that most LLMs have trouble with.
It's meant to be a good test, not a good design.
FranzFerdiNaN 5 hours ago [-]
It’s not really AI slop, it’s how most modern SAAS websites look like.
seaal 6 hours ago [-]
The monthly API credits for Max plan seems fantastic, especially considering Haiku pricing. Being able to actually use my Claude plan for other harnesses and use-cases on top of regular CC usage is everything I wanted.
Anthropic has really been doing all the right things in the past few weeks, while OpenAI continues to fumble the bag.
thepasch 5 hours ago [-]
Note that this is Anthropic Trojan-Horsing the previously announced June change in with a model release, where the Claude Agent SDK can no longer be used with Claude subscriptions and is now billed with API credits only.
Sorry for the misleading wording on this page; we’ve updated it to clarify that the Claude Agent SDK can still be used with subscriptions.
dr_kiszonka 2 hours ago [-]
Thanks for sharing this!
These vendor lock-in attempts are very annoying.
0gs 5 hours ago [-]
yeah totally agree. esp how efficient it can be to have a subscription quota-paid orch spin up a bunch of API agents, this is kind of like free money to encourage what was already an easy way to save money (via batch pricing)
laurels-marts 55 minutes ago [-]
OpenAI has been a disaster lately.
skeledrew 4 hours ago [-]
> Being able to actually use my Claude plan for other harnesses
Wait what? This has gotten their blessing?
neucoas 3 hours ago [-]
You could always use Claude models on other harnesses via API... just not via subscription. Now they give you $100 worth of API tokens to use on opencode or Pi. Which is better, but still not the same as OpenAI were you can use the subscription on Pi without problems.
copperx 3 hours ago [-]
Absolutely not.
wyrdcurt 5 hours ago [-]
About time Anthropic released a competitive cheap model. Haiku 4.5 has been too expensive compared to its performance for months now (in fact I don't remember being too impressed even when it was released). This one actually looks worth using in some scenarios. If it's really as much of a step up from Luna as the benchmarks they've shown indicate, it'll probably replace Luna in my workflows. 100k tokens is a pretty low threshold before the price goes up, but I tend to use these smaller models for smaller tasks anyway.
bouk 5 hours ago [-]
This is great! Been using GPT 6 Luna for decompiling my childhood favorite game (Age of Mythology) and this means I can throw Haiku into the mix as well. 17352/21965 functions matched so far...
WASDx 2 hours ago [-]
How do you validate the functions are correct? I did something similar, letting it (mostly deepseek 4.1) translate from assembly to C but it commonly made mistakes, some really hard to discover and fix.
Karrot_Kream 2 hours ago [-]
You should be able to validate it by creating tests against the assembler.
gizmodo59 5 hours ago [-]
can you share more details? was this very involved or asking codex/claude/open code with a 1 shot like approach?
bouk 5 hours ago [-]
I'll write a blogpost when I actually have it working, but basically I gave the game .msi installer to claude opus 5.5 and said to read these blogs:
And to setup a harness that will decompile the game and start doing a matching decompilation of every function. It set up a bunch of tooling and started a service in the background to do this actual decompilation campaign. I put some instructions into the main opus chat now and then to e.g. add automatic git pushing including a nice svg chart of progress and to switch model strategies here and there i.e. to do a first pass with a cheap model and then switch to opus/sol if the small model can't solve it.
I could now one-shot a new game, yeah.
supersour 4 hours ago [-]
Maybe a Show HN? I would be quite interested in seeing the results of this project
wingworks 55 minutes ago [-]
I've done the same with some old games I used to play, SimTower and Oregon Trail II, both fully decompiled and now running natively on modern macOS.
I'm going to try create an interactive twitch stream where viewers can play the game through the stream and other non-player viewers can trigger events in the game via points.
Crazy time we live in.
Edit, you come to really understand the game in the process, and why things happen and how to better play the game.
And occasionally come across bugs, dev assets, assets never used, or assets all coded up, but code never triggered.
vunderba 50 minutes ago [-]
Amusingly I just saw a "Show HN" for SimTower running online via WASM:
Haha yeah, I saw that post when I looked into reverse engineering SimTower, that guy saved me so much time decompiling. Didn't get so lucky with Oregon Trail II, there are some very old github repo's with attempts, but none got very far.
vunderba 14 minutes ago [-]
We're definitely in the age of ports! Interested to see how the OT2 port turns out.
Reverse engineering Redhook's Revenge binary (an old DOS game) before the advent of LLMs cost me way more hours than I'd care to admit back in the day - so I can't wait to put an LLM to work on some more obscure games like Sword Quest.
On a side note I should really give Oregon Trail II a shot. I never got into any of the successors like Yukon Trail, Amazon Trail, etc.
varenc 2 hours ago [-]
decompilation doesn't trigger any safeguard refusals? I would have assumed it would but glad it doesn't. Very cool and would also love to hear more.
supern0va 1 hours ago [-]
Surprisingly, no. I've been using Fable and Astra both to orchestrate decompilation of a relatively modern game (delivered via Steam) and they have no qualms about it.
anthonypasq 5 hours ago [-]
i love Age of Mythology, but why did you feel the need to decompile it? Its got a great world editor if you were trying to "mod" it.
bouk 4 hours ago [-]
I want to get the original (Age of Mythology Gold Edition) running natively on macOS and then port it to WASM to run it on the web so I can easily play it with friends
MisterMunchkin 4 hours ago [-]
Intriguing, I wonder how far you could go with turning games into websites.
Like could total war become a browser game?
steveklabnik 3 hours ago [-]
I saw recently that someone had ported Halo CE to the web and had 1024 players in Blood Gulch.
vunderba 3 hours ago [-]
Probably. There have been dozens of examples of taking old games (Crazy Taxi, Super Monkey Ball, Quake, etc) and making WASM browser equivalents using AI to decompile them just on "Show HN" alone.
They often ship the original assets in a somewhat brazen disregard for basic copyright law even when the games are still for sale on places like GOG though.
kro 4 hours ago [-]
Last time I gave that a try (without LLM assistance though) it was really hard as games DirectX calls cannot simply be glued to WebGL so performance was bad.
d1l 5 hours ago [-]
At work we use haiku 4.5 for a handful of latency sensitive tasks that are fairly simple. It performs well. Just started testing 5.5 as I’ve been anticipating a nice improvement since it was teased. Results so far are trash. Prompt leakage even. And it’s slower. I guess it’s cheap but I think they got the balance wrong on this.
HyperL0gi 2 hours ago [-]
Exact same thing here.
Both evals and Human pairwise tests for our use case are giving Haiku 4.5 first place in pretty much all tests.
No we'll try understand if we need to change our prompts to match performance ...
Thx I’m digging into it but am somewhat comforted not to be alone in this. Turning up the level helps some but then we lose the speed. I don’t know that we’ll switch to 5.5 and may shop a different provider.
Anecdotally we ran sonnet 4.6 for our more complex stuff and sonnet 5 was a LOT worse. 5.5 seems to have fixed it and we cut over our customer workloads. It’s strange, really.
saretup 4 hours ago [-]
Curious as to why. Haiku 4.5 has been far away from pareto frontier for a long time. Maybe you need to update your prompt for the newer model in your workflow.
XCSme 2 hours ago [-]
It's around Qwen-3.8, and Sonnet 5.5 level, but a lot cheaper. It is also really fast.
I wonder if we have an AI LLM equivalent to Moore's Law. Like how often do we expect improvement in this technology and with what timing?
onlyrealcuzzo 5 hours ago [-]
Yes -> every 18 months they've gotten 90% more efficient for the same level of quality for about 5 years. There's little sign that trend is slowing. If anything, there's reason to believe that System 1 models (plus potentially 1-2-3 workflows) may increase that over the next 3-5 years.
You'll know when the trend stops -> when the intelligence differential between smaller models like 7B starts to grow instead of shrink from 32B models -> that means 7B is getting about as smart as it can get. Then, 32B will follow next, then 70B, etc etc.
We haven't yet seen that at any size AFAIK.
thefourthchime 5 hours ago [-]
Andrej Karpathy said once that he expects superintelligence could fit in 1 billion parameters.
onlyrealcuzzo 5 hours ago [-]
Super intelligence that doesn't have to deal with the real world, maybe.
I wouldn't be surprised if less than 1B param equivalent of our brain deals with solving math and writing computer programs and physics and all the things we tend to associate with "intelligence" - especially if you ultra optimized for that, I doubt our brain works like that.
Dealing with the real world, I highly highly doubt it.
Gigachad 2 hours ago [-]
It would be interesting if running ends up being a more complex task than advanced math. And our brains are just 95% allocated to dealing with the real world.
jstummbillig 5 hours ago [-]
How about if we get away from written text as the input, to something more fundamental, that then also is able to produce text (among other things)?
Given that humans learn to talk while having encountered a measly number of word instances, and, given enough time, we should always be able to improve on the lottery that is biology, it does seems fairly likely.
istjohn 5 hours ago [-]
According to Epoch AI:
> The cost of achieving a given level of AI performance has fallen about 47% per quarter since 2023, or 13× per year. [0]
A frontier Ai is cheaper to make than a single 5/6th gen fighter jet, and maybe every fighter jet at this point.
jrflo 4 hours ago [-]
Because models are only getting better at a rate of 10% per year, people always want the best quality possible. You can get SotA performance from a year ago for a fraction of the cost, but why would you use Opus 4.5 when you can use Opus 5.5?
f6v 2 hours ago [-]
Reddit is full of people complaining how they burn their 200$ sub in half an hour by starting ten Max sub agents. That’s to say, many people just don’t know what they’re doing.
jstummbillig 5 hours ago [-]
Because it's increasingly useful and the thing you are substituting (human time) is much more expensive.
srdjanr 4 hours ago [-]
Apart from what others said about using more intelligent models instead of cheaper ones, token usage is also increasing a lot. Classic Jevons paradox
teaearlgraycold 5 hours ago [-]
At least for me the Claude plans seem like an incredible deal and I never hit my limit.
Whew, at least I won't have to hand-code solutions to the 2K38 problem!
bravetraveler 6 hours ago [-]
I've heard tell about 100% of certain types of work being ended in batches of six months. For years. Truthfully, I'm skeptical, but accuracy wasn't prioritized.
himata4113 6 hours ago [-]
double the information density every 2 days?
serious bit: if you think about how these smaller models work, at the end of the day it seems that they are now capable of forgetting useless information because they're able to derive it in reasoning allowing models to become smaller at the cost of requiring more reasoning tokens to solve a task.
qeternity 6 hours ago [-]
Knowledge will be shifted to systems like n-gram augmentation which are relatively cheap and will not compete with reasoning capabilities for weight saturation.
dyauspitr 6 hours ago [-]
Hopefully enough runway for an existing model to train the next to be better than itself with absolutely no human intervention.
matltc 3 hours ago [-]
My weekly limit __on a Pro sub__ has not gone over 50% since before the pre-Fable promos, but usage has been pretty much the same from my point of view. Maybe I am holding it right? Anyone else getting this?
As such, I do not need to even reach for Haiku, and 4.5 was so inaccurate that it often cost more to do so in the past. Sonnet 5.5/low has been good for this kind of thing, and i didn't even touch thinking tokens or any of that. Opus 5.5 low for questions/repros, medium for implementation, basically never reaching for anything above that anymore. 5.5 has been great, so I'll try Haiku, but don't see myself going out of my way to integrate it.
pkulak 3 hours ago [-]
I'm excited for API use. I run some agents, mostly on Luna 6 right now. It's just tool use, web browsing, etc, so something dirt cheap, but also not super dumb, is much appreciated. Having a Luna competitor is nice.
coubri 3 hours ago [-]
there is no way in hell that im gonna use Haiku too, tho weekly limits become a problem for me in a last couple of month tbh
garo-pro 5 hours ago [-]
> Claude Haiku 5.5 is our fastest model to date at each model’s standard speed, although it runs less quickly than our Opus models in Fast Mode.
Opus 5.5 runs 117 tps average on Openrouter, so it must be at least 10-20 tps slower for them to mention. IDK why they mention this as it does not help for marketing though.
https://openrouter.ai/anthropic/claude-opus-5.5
jstummbillig 5 hours ago [-]
Maybe they think it's of interest.
fred_dawg 5 hours ago [-]
Is that page showing Opus TPS stats in fast mode? IIRC fast mode is 2.5x speed, so that would be 293 TPS, no?
yorwba 4 hours ago [-]
117 tps is the fast one, regular speed is 69 tps.
mchusma 52 minutes ago [-]
At a glance, looks competitive on the pareto. I hope it retains the flavor of sonnet 5.5 and opus 5.5. Both are extremely good and productive. I have had a lot more issues with gpt 6/6.1 and getting what I want out of them.
131tok/s P50 according to OpenRouter currently, though might move up or down over the coming days. If it sticks at that speed, roughly twice the throughput of Luna and far lower latency (up to 2sec depending on provider) is impressive, though the 5x price increase beyond 100k is painful.
Was a big fan of Haiku 4.5, though understand why for most Sonnet was the far better option back then.
MisterMunchkin 4 hours ago [-]
> we’ll roll out a new monthly API credit to all Max and Team subscribers for use on the Claude Platform. Max 5x users will get $100 in credits per month, Max 20x users will get $200
They’re definitely planning to make the subscriptions API based so they can charge you full price.
TomGarden 6 hours ago [-]
From these selected benchmarks, it looks like it smokes Luna capability-wise. Excited to put it through its paces
nico 1 hours ago [-]
Has Anthropic released a decision model ala Jev? I wonder if they’ll launch something soon
waximabbax 4 hours ago [-]
Alright its still little early since there is not enough independent testing but this looks very promising and I wasn't expecting anthropic to beat GPT-6 Luna especially at the same price. Haiku 5.5 beats Luna on every shared benchmark Anthropic published, particularly computer use and agentic coding.
dangoodmanUT 5 hours ago [-]
> Second, this week, we’ll roll out a new monthly API credit to all Max and Team subscribers for use on the Claude Platform. Max 5x users will get $100 in credits per month, Max 20x users will get $200, and Team subscribers will receive up to $500, pooled across their users. These credits are designed to allow our users to experiment with building tools, apps, and agents that call our API.
This is kind of nuts
djeastm 4 hours ago [-]
Is it realistic or cynical for me to assume this is to wean developers off the heavily subsidized subscriptions? Presumably it's using similar compute.
copperx 3 hours ago [-]
Anthropic was ignoring the usage of third party harnesses. Not anymore.
skeledrew 5 hours ago [-]
The forgotten model is back on the map. I actually got OK mileage when I tried it for coding months ago. Maybe I'll try it again, with Opus guiding it, and see how it goes.
satvikpendem 5 hours ago [-]
Apparently quite a bit smarter than Luna, I wonder what use cases it can cover. I actually honestly don't need a Haiku level AI to be that smart, and looks like you pay for it in the per token cost, I need speed mainly. I might even rather have a dumber but much faster model for things like web searching and parsing to retrieve results for the app or other LLM to do things with.
patrickwdaly 6 hours ago [-]
How are y'all using Haiku though? I rarely select it.
mariocesar 5 hours ago [-]
I have a zsh functions that calls claude code with haiku to suggest commit messages, is faster and the instructions are two lines.
I also have an "ask" script that I use daily to ask simple stuff, it can access websearch and webfetch, it's more than enough to parse logs, ask for commands, quick research on the internet, small stuff. https://github.com/mariocesar/dotfiles/blob/main/common/.loc...
I use haiku for things that needs to be quick, have really clear instructions.
tetraodonpuffer 3 hours ago [-]
with claude -p seemingly now using api credits I guess this approach will have to change unfortunately :/ I wonder what will be the best cmdline way to do things like these
swalsh 5 hours ago [-]
I've been using GPT-6 Luna in some capacity for nearly all my agent workflows. It's just a really good model, and the pricing is cheap. If Haiku 5.5 is better, and the same price (under 100k context... which is a big caveat) i'd probably swap it.
dannyw 5 hours ago [-]
It’s absolutely better than Luna. It feels closer to a “sonnet 5.2” if that makes sense.
Of course it’s not as big, and hence falls-off quicker. I’d consider the 100k a “promotional price” to match Luna’s token pricing while delivering noticeably more intelligence.
svachalek 6 hours ago [-]
Opus often picks it when it's doing a "find me something" subagent. But largely it's been held back by being fully a year old at this point, and priced at a much higher price than models that are far more capable.
notatoad 5 hours ago [-]
not haiku, but luna - last week i used it for things like "read this historical dump of 15k support tickets and break them into categories that make sense, then propose help docs that i could write to handle the most frequent queries in each category"
used <10% of my 5hr limit on a $100 codex plan.
gghootch 5 hours ago [-]
I was waiting for this.
Planning on doing flash analyses of PRs that impact evals in some way, and then post comments on GitHub whenever there’s flaws in them
It's great at parsing documents inexpensively. For the few skills/plugins I've made, I usually instruct Claude to use Haiku for low-reasoning grunt work.
hector_vasquez 5 hours ago [-]
My software application uses Haiku in production more or less as a Jev. I do not use it for coding or development.
mrkn1 3 hours ago [-]
Why not have a CPU-first decision model for free? check out gutsy
Plutoberth 5 hours ago [-]
I'm building a game that incorporates LLMs as a game mechanic.
I've been using Luna, but I'll probably switch to Haiku.
caskeycoding 4 hours ago [-]
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mochizou 5 hours ago [-]
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hidelooktropic 4 hours ago [-]
Finally! I understand Haiku is the less intelligent model, but the gap between Sonnet and Opus has been far too wide for about a year now.
sroussey 6 hours ago [-]
It’s about time Haiku got an update!
johnisom2001 5 hours ago [-]
It fails the "How many r's in <word>?" test.
I ask:
> how many r's in diminished
It answers:
> Diminished has 1 r.
the__alchemist 4 hours ago [-]
I am perpetually confused about every name and version combination from both OpenAI and Anthropic. Especially in conjunction with the effort levels.
afrnswrth 6 hours ago [-]
The important question though...how does it do making a pelican on a bicycle?
declanjackson 4 hours ago [-]
According to AA benchmarks, it uses 162k output tokens per task (with max reasoning) - over double GLM-5.3 Flash for similar level of Intelligence
oh_no 4 hours ago [-]
no AA benchmarks yet and the last chart in the announcement makes Haiku look useless vs new Sonnet pricing, interesting to see what 3rd party benchmarks show because i think Anthropic are costpertaskmaxxing here and it's going to look more like that bottom chart than the top ones.
3371 5 hours ago [-]
Seeing people talking about the Agents SDK -> credits change makes me wonder does it impact Zed or likes.
sfkgtbor 6 hours ago [-]
Happy about the Sonnet cache read price cut.
minimaxir 6 hours ago [-]
That was effectively required to match GPT-6.1 Sol (costs and caching prices are now equal). Sonnet 5.5 made zero sense to use over Opus 5.5 under the old cache prices.
mochizou 5 hours ago [-]
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margorczynski 6 hours ago [-]
How does the price compare to Luna? At least looking at the numbers it is noticeably better at most tasks.
onlyrealcuzzo 6 hours ago [-]
IMO, this is better. Luna is super cheap, but it's not that capable. At higher levels of reasoning, it's not that fast.
This is more expensive, but it also looks like it's better enough that it's far more useful.
I also won't be surprised if you look at cost per completed task + wall clock time that it comes out ahead for the majority of what you'd want to actually use it for.
Luna will still be a great option for doing non-engineering tasks super cheaply.
TomGarden 6 hours ago [-]
For prompts under 100k tokens, it's priced the same as Luna - $0.10 in, $0.50 out.
For prompts over 100k tokens it's 5 times more expensive - $0.50 in, $2.50 out.
mattz56 5 hours ago [-]
It's finally here ! Need to take a look at some benchmark now
dfhdskfhdsjf 23 minutes ago [-]
sup
maz1b 6 hours ago [-]
Wow, the rate of improvements in the AI era is staggering.
GDPval-AA v2.1 as of now: 1620
GDPval-AA v2.1 for Haiku 4.5: 735
The 100k tokens pricing makes sense, looks to be a hedge against OpenAI's decisions API and Jev or its open source alternatives that are springing up.
Nice release, congrats to Anthropic.
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harshitkrhere 3 hours ago [-]
request to anthropic team release haiku as os model
dhabedank 2 hours ago [-]
Really excited to use this
justmaris 4 hours ago [-]
Finally it has arrived.
dcchambers 5 hours ago [-]
Begging Anthropic to let us use Claude subs with harnesses other than Claude Code at this point.
crooked-v 5 hours ago [-]
The important question is, does it talk in incomprehensible Claude-ese like the other Claude 5.x models?
simianwords 5 hours ago [-]
> Second, this week, we’ll roll out a new monthly API credit to all Max and Team subscribers for use on the Claude Platform. Max 5x users will get $100 in credits per month, Max 20x users will get $200, and Team subscribers will receive up to $500, pooled across their users. These credits are designed to allow our users to experiment with building tools, apps, and agents that call our API. They can be used on any of our models. For more information, see our Help Center article.
Did anyone read this? We get free API credits on some plans now
axthauvin 5 hours ago [-]
will use it to replace luna in production !
AtNightWeCode 5 hours ago [-]
Probably the same scam as the last Haiku update I guess. Uses more tokens to compensate for the lower price.
AtNightWeCode 4 hours ago [-]
To correct myself. The price was not lower. It was up about 20% for the tokens. But, the big price hike was that it used a lot more tokens for the same tasks.
iagocc 6 hours ago [-]
Where is Pelican? ehehhe
rvz 6 hours ago [-]
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swalsh 5 hours ago [-]
I think it's a joke at this point, but also the visual benchmark is a remarkably dense method for demonstrating how good a model is.
InsideOutSanta 5 hours ago [-]
Yeah, people like to poop on the pelican. But pelican quality still correlated with overall model capabilities reasonably well, and you can immediately see and interpret it. It's a running gag, but it also does have some actual value.
InsideOutSanta 5 hours ago [-]
So do you have the pelican or no?
rvz 5 hours ago [-]
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tomhow 4 hours ago [-]
Can you please not be so sneery/grouchy? That's far worse for HN than suboptimal benchmarks. The guidelines specifically ask us to avoid being curmudgeonly.
Mashimo 1 hours ago [-]
What is i want to code svg files though?
InsideOutSanta 3 hours ago [-]
Ok, so I looked at all of your links, but nary a pelican to be found. How am I supposed to know what all these numbers mean if there is no pelican?
simianwords 6 hours ago [-]
I remember a friend asking me why LLMs suck so bad. She was using Haiku 4.5 and that poor model couldn't keep track of the context within 3 messages.
She said she was using Haiku 4.5 because she was advised to be careful with the spending.
I hate that model so much lol.
areoform 5 hours ago [-]
> but they still block penetration testing and other techniques more likely to be used by attackers.
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> Haiku 5.5’s biology safeguards are the same as for Sonnet 5, Sonnet 5.5, and Opus 5. They allow research biology questions but restrict access to requests that we judge as likely to cause harm. Organizations working on wider-ranging biology and cyber activities can apply to our Life Sciences Verification Program and Cyber Verification Program.
I would like to take a moment of your time to tell you about some of the "bioweapons" Anthropic has blocked that involved Haiku!
> Importantly, because our biological safety classifiers robustly block content involving high-risk biological research (in this case, the construction of enhanced pandemic potential pathogens), all of these exchanges occurred on models in our weakest class of models (specifically, the models were Claude Sonnet 4 and Haiku 4.5, the latter of which the user began using after Sonnet 4 was deprecated).
>
> Upon a detailed examination of the exchanges, we estimate that the uplift provided by Claude was primarily clerical assistance in data analysis, study ideation and design. This is consistent with our understanding of the capabilities of Sonnet 4 and Haiku 4.5, which are not able to perform expert-level biology research tasks; we estimate that the uplift provided to the researcher was limited and substantially lower than it would have been from one of our more capable models.
Anthropic then says for the above, "we estimate that the uplift provided by Claude was primarily clerical assistance in data analysis, study ideation and design"
While doing my best to avoid comment, please note, they're talking about a domain expert in a state research institution using Claude to do paperwork.
What did they save us from? What bioweapons did these filters prevent? From the front matter report,
> The above LLM platform is not the only route via which researchers engaged in viral gain-of-function research have used our platform. In May 2026, we discovered a researcher outside the US using Claude in their research on highly-pathogenic avian influenza (“bird flu”). The research focused on viruses’ adaptation to mammals, and the mechanism by which it causes severe disease beyond the respiratory tract.
OK. Sounds serious. "Gain of function research..." but who and why?
> The researcher pursued this work in a credible institutional context, and interacted with Claude over the course of several weeks, exchanging thousands of messages. In these exchanges, the researcher leveraged Claude’s knowledge of the scientific literature to assist the researcher in study planning and design, data analysis, and the interpretation and prioritization of experiments. The researcher also used Claude for editorial assistance in writing up the research.
So this was a researcher inside of some country's national lab ("credible institutional context") doing research on dangerous viruses using Claude for "for editorial assistance in writing up the research."
What "uplift" are you providing to scientists working at specialized global BSL-4 labs that already have – and I quote their report - "physical access to such isolates." (as in samples of viruses)? Are we uplifting their grammar?
These "safeguards" are being expanded. The scientists I know can't use Claude for grammar checks or anything serious. You can try it for yourself.
caaqil 5 hours ago [-]
> Haiku 5.5’s cybersecurity safeguards are more restrictive than Haiku 4.5’s, but somewhat less restrictive than those we’ve applied to other recent models. In cybersecurity, they permit a wider range of defensive tasks than our safeguards for Sonnet 5.5, but they still block penetration testing and other techniques more likely to be used by attackers.
If you block pentest or "other techniques more likely to be used by attackers", then what does "permit a wider range of defensive tasks" even mean?
Any defensive task that's meaningful is almost indistinguishable from legitimate red-teaming that then falls under 'likely to be used by attackers". If only they would just stop nerfing these models, that'd be great. No APT is waiting around for Anthropic's permission, so might as well let us have some cool stuff.
TuxSH 5 hours ago [-]
Yeah it's too little too late, cat's out of the bag as people know that GLM 5.3 exists and is great at defensive and offensive cybersec.
(sadly Mistral Large 4 isn't up to par - but Mistral serves GLM at 130 tps!)
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Does anyone still use Haiku model?
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I use it for title generation basically. Will have to see where this one fits in
Low messes up the bicycle frame, but medium/high/xhigh/max all get the bicycle frame right.
The max one took 5 minutes 9 seconds and cost 3.3826 cents. The cheapest one (low) cost 0.0936 cents and took 7 seconds.
The most recent release of my llm-anthropic plugin queries the Anthropic model listing API directly, so I didn't have to upgrade the plugin to add support for this model:
EDIT: Here's the Haiku 4.5 pelican from a year ago for comparison, it was terrible: https://simonwillison.net/2025/Oct/15/claude-haiku-45/Opus 5.5 had similar response on max: This is a classic test request
https://tools.simonwillison.net/markdown-svg-renderer?url=ht...
I think your test is already embedded into the models. You should search for new frontier tests to subject the models to. Maybe they should now try to unify the standard model and general relativity in physics. I'm pretty sure this is nowhere to be found in any training data nor shared in any chat between a scientist and a LLM ;)
> "What's up with the pelican?"
Well you see in the early days of LLMs we wanted a fun way to test new models, and there was this blog, ...
Even more so, because in a lot of their benchmarks they use the max models. I honestly think I'd rather these labs use their xhigh models as the default for benchmarking instead since I don't think the average person is even using max.
I'm definitely not the average person though.
I actually don't like that it sometimes remembers the last model/effort i used. I should be able to set a default model/effort that is separate from the one off fable runs I use.
The pelicans all start to look the same after a while.
But seeing the comparison to other models by class, family, or historical progression gives an excellent frame of reference.
Here's the Haiku 4.5 pelican from a year ago - it sucked in comparison to Haiku 5.5: https://simonwillison.net/2025/Oct/15/claude-haiku-45/
Here's a Blender model I had Claude Opus 5.5 create: https://tools.simonwillison.net/blender-viewer?url=https%3A%...
And here's some animated pixel art by Opus 5.5: https://tools.simonwillison.net/kakapo-party
And some Monkey Island style music (Opus can compose music too): https://tools.simonwillison.net/scrimshaw-jukebox
Anthropic's models do all of this by outputting code. GPT-6 Astra has similar capabilities - I got this Blender model using that: https://tools.simonwillison.net/blender-viewer?url=https%3A%...
My prompts were:
> I want you to write some computer game music for me. First design simple text based format for the music and build an artifact that can play it out loud - include some example tracks in that artifact
> I am looking for music of the quality of the original secret of Monkey Island
And then later:
> Modify scrimshaw jukebox to add a copy-paste prompt that explains the music format, it should be shown at the bottom of the page below the readable instructions, the prompt should be designed to help any LLM tool compose music in the correct format. It should have a copy to clipboard button.
https://claude.ai/share/1f721c20-2499-4d23-b368-3ab57146d956 and then https://claude.ai/code/session_01R3xuRtjVHqHo1GNbget6Tu
I think the music from the original is art, and I have enormous respect for it - I can still hum some of those tunes out loud thirty years later.
The "music" in my demo helps show that text-based LLMs can do a passable job of composing simple 90s-era imitations of computer game music. That's interesting, because most people don't like not expect a text LLM to be able to do that.
They are still not great at SVG. I just asked Opus and Fable to add a background to an SVG and the results were, well, not great.
This creates Sierra AGI-style adventure game scenes painted live from simple Turtle-esque drawing instructions so you can basically provide it an empty canvas and then position text labels on the canvas where you want certain things (tavern, oak tree, etc) and it will generate a custom script for rendering them in a EGA graphics style.
https://kq-styles.specr.net
Please don't judge me too harshly for this particular poop video. But here is an example of something 100% generated with claude prompts only.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EqMplbt0gU
In both cases, still much cheaper than Haiku 4.5's $1 input / $5 output and these prices better compete with GPT-6 Luna. ($0.10 input / $0.50 output, but with no token threshold [EDIT: the threshold for Luna is apparently 272k])
For a while Anthropic has lacked a cost effective “cheap” LLM for summarisation, compacting, RAG helpers, etc.
These ‘ephemeral’ workloads are often under 100k tokens, or can be structured to be under 100k.
In some coding benchmarks, Haiku 5.5 beats Sonnet 5! (Especially implementation; do a well defined Jira ticket; etc), it’s really impressive how much intelligence per dollar has grown in just a few short months.
Open weights models giving a distant salute from afar
If you want to make it about 99% of real world companies, they are all on Gemini or Copilot anyway, nobody is going through legal and procurement to get models from dubious silicon valley startups when you have relations with Microsoft or Google or Amazon from ages because some benchmark is showing some minor digit benefit when vibe coding GTA 6.
You can test with Anthropic's count_tokens endpoint or with https://crates.io/crates/tokwc
So, it is might be even worse.
I use Luna for this day in and out and its excellent - if Haiku is that much better I will be changing things up.
"less context is better and if you can't get stuff done with less yur bad" is the worst argument ever.
it might be pure luxury to your eyes, but it's great to not require the use of a special custom harness that transcribes everything into emoji and compresses everything into barcode images.
it's great to have a million token context to throw a large project into. If I need 100k just about any current gen consumer GPU in the world has very good models that I can self host for 100k context, limiting myself to 100k on someone elses machine seems to be missing a lot of the point unless the model itself is extraordinary.
Neither encode nor decode are linear in compute, so providers need to price for average expected length.
This is just getting closer to the true cost of generating tokens.
For this application 100K token input is plenty.
Of course Anthropic and OpenAI, both at $0.10/M, are still 2.5x the cost of Jev's $0.04/M.
For other tasks like summaries (another suggested usage) it's good to see Haiku and Luna now competing against each other on cost.
I'd love to know how the business automation market breaks down by volume of call type though - hard to imagine that decision making (e.g. branching, triage) isn't a very large part of it, greater than these other suggested Haiku use cases.
From OpenAI's website: Prompts with more than 272K input tokens are priced at 2x input and cache rates and 1.5x output for the full request.
Fixed.
The benchmark in the article showed it as lower per completed task than luna, but I guess we'll find out how representative that is. Anthropic has generally been fairly honest in their benchmarking though.
With that said, the real reason to use Haiku is that it's faster than all of these models. OpenRouter is showing an average so far of 93 tokens/sec, and AA got at least 137 in each of their benchmarks. So it might be valuable for speed at lower thinking levels. (At higher thinking levels, it's likely going to take longer to produce results than Sol on low/medium.)
https://artificialanalysis.ai/models/releases/comparisons/cl...
I will try the new Haiku, but it would be worthwhile if Haiku could take sane instructions and do all file editing for Opus / Sonnet / Fable then it would be worth using.
Your vibes don't appear to be supported by facts. From the announcement:
>> Claude Haiku 5.5 is priced 90% lower than Claude Haiku 4.5 for requests up to 100,000 tokens, and 50% lower for requests over 100,000 tokens. On Haiku 4.5, 90% of requests fell into the former category.
I'm asking to learn for a similar project, not to discount anything you're saying.
There are plenty of workflows like translations where you'd easily be under the cap.
AAI Index // Input // Output
Haiku 5.5: 43 // $0.10 // $0.50
Mimo 2.6 Pro: 46 // $0.43 // $0.87
Mimo 2.6 Flash: 38 // $0.10 // $0.28
Seems competitive to me? Plus then I don't have to manage multiple providers
And Opus 5.5 is really good.
9x cheaper than Haiku 4.5 and 2 letter grades better. It's also now the fastest model (using the default speeds, not trying any of the other models "Fast" mode) to complete the exam.
Similar ballpark to Luna in price, cost, and accuracy. These are very cheap models: $0.38 to answer 40 in-depth data analytics questions (compared to $15 for Opus 5.5 or $20 for Astra).
Overall very good at data analysis - handling all of the straightforward data analytics questions correctly. It fell short answering some of the questions that required some deeper statistical analysis like looking into other variables. In other words, it's not as persistent as other models in its analysis, which I think we'd expect from how they're positioning the model.
Compared to OpenAI: GPT-6 Luna did a bit better and was about 30% the cost of Haiku 5.5. GPT-6.1 Sol got all answers correct, but was 10x more expensive.
This is a very big benefit for me. I can now ship actual ai enhanced features behind my subscription without paying extra or fully relying on on-device models. I do worry that this is to soften the blow for user-unfriendly changes
https://support.claude.com/en/articles/15036540-use-the-clau...
Being forced through the non-OSS Claude Code with all of its quirks and issues is... such an exhausting use of force by Anthropic.
To the extent that you _can_ choose to disable telemetry and training on your traces in CC, it's not all that obvious what they gain by crippling your ability to use the subscription with other – better – tools.
It's also remarkable that it's coincident with OpenAI adding "Sign in with OpenAI", so that you can use your tokens with other tools.
You might be right and they will change this in the future, but that's speculative
This text has replaced the entirety of the page called "Use the Claude Agent SDK with your Claude plan."
What more do you need?
Update: We just updated the docs to clarify how API credits can be used w/ claude -p: https://support.claude.com/en/articles/15036540-use-the-clau...
https://code.claude.com/docs/en/headless
So, as written, yes.
This is more to encourage people to try out adding AI into their product, which is a totally different flow and experience from using AI to build the product.
That's 5-15 minutes of work at most. Not exactly the type of lock-in the parent is implying.
Of course, they don't do this out of pure kindness, but I really struggle to see a negative for subscribers already using a Claude Max subscription, especially given changing to another model is essentially frictionless via OpenRouter.
Compared with "Sign in via OpenAI" which they just announced, this is far less lock-in for anyone hosting services but less interesting for users of said services. With Anthropics approach, you can just use the allowance on your users however you see fit along with any other models and once it's used up, you can still just decide not to use their models for the remainder. With users bringing their tokens meanwhile, there is less flexibility in terms of switching for you, though might be cheaper for users.
Both interesting, each approaching this from a very different direction, each having their own trade-offs. On the OpenAI front, will be interesting whether developers can set specific temp, reasoning budgets, etc. for such "provided tokens" or whether OpenAI exposes that only via the actual API.
[0] https://www.anthropic.com/legal/credit-terms
Anthropic isn't even close to being this useful.
Biggest loss is that Ant models look like they are genuinely better.
This changes on a weekly basis, I ended up with subscriptions to most of the providers (except for X.ai).
> Claude Haiku 5.5 is priced 90% lower than Claude Haiku 4.5 for requests up to 100,000 tokens, and 50% lower for requests over 100,000 tokens
Haiku and Luna now have the exact same price up to 100,000 tokens. Luna is now cheaper for anything after 100,000 tokens, even after Luna's own price increases at 270,000 it's still less than Haiku.
So it sounds like they've directly addressed that problem. Their self-reported benchmarks are all higher than Luna too.
In OSWorld 2.1 Haiku is better.
On GDPval-AA v2.1 Haiku is equal or worse than Luna.
On Humanity’s Last Exam they don’t seem even be comparing Haiku with Luna.
For these baby distillations of flagships, I expect their users to be very price sensitive.
Good to know that is going back to being an actual option from perf/price perspective.
Haiku 5.5: https://html.non.io/lcars-haiku-5.5/
Opus 5.5 for comparison: https://html.non.io/lcars-opus-5.5
Designs it was building from: https://diffui.ai/app/canvas/5093e689-1e74-4f26-b632-2a4500f...
One interesting thing is it took a look at the job at hand, and immediately delegated it to Opus 5.5. It at least knows what it isn't good at. Very fast though, and likely best used for small subagent tasks / tightly scoped work.
Considering the price, no model comes close to being as good as this. However, it did take an extremely long time.
TIME 19m COST $0.16 https://jonclegg.github.io/pacman-bakeoff/#claude-haiku-5-5
All results: https://jonclegg.github.io/pacman-bakeoff/
Hasn't this always been the case with Haiku?
It's meant to be a good test, not a good design.
Anthropic has really been doing all the right things in the past few weeks, while OpenAI continues to fumble the bag.
https://support.claude.com/en/articles/15036540-use-the-clau...
That's not a good sign for Conductor...
Update: We just updated the docs to clarify how API credits can be used w/ claude -p: https://support.claude.com/en/articles/15036540-use-the-clau...
Wait what? This has gotten their blessing?
I could now one-shot a new game, yeah.
I'm going to try create an interactive twitch stream where viewers can play the game through the stream and other non-player viewers can trigger events in the game via points.
Crazy time we live in.
Edit, you come to really understand the game in the process, and why things happen and how to better play the game. And occasionally come across bugs, dev assets, assets never used, or assets all coded up, but code never triggered.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49676394
Reverse engineering Redhook's Revenge binary (an old DOS game) before the advent of LLMs cost me way more hours than I'd care to admit back in the day - so I can't wait to put an LLM to work on some more obscure games like Sword Quest.
On a side note I should really give Oregon Trail II a shot. I never got into any of the successors like Yukon Trail, Amazon Trail, etc.
Like could total war become a browser game?
They often ship the original assets in a somewhat brazen disregard for basic copyright law even when the games are still for sale on places like GOG though.
Both evals and Human pairwise tests for our use case are giving Haiku 4.5 first place in pretty much all tests.
No we'll try understand if we need to change our prompts to match performance ...
edit: maybe this will help: https://platform.claude.com/docs/en/build-with-claude/prompt...
Anecdotally we ran sonnet 4.6 for our more complex stuff and sonnet 5 was a LOT worse. 5.5 seems to have fixed it and we cut over our customer workloads. It’s strange, really.
My tests for Haiku 5.5: https://aibenchy.com/compare/anthropic-claude-haiku-5-5-xhig...
Twice as expensive as Luna, but also considerably smarter too:
https://aibenchy.com/compare/anthropic-claude-haiku-5-5-xhig...
https://aibenchy.com/compare/anthropic-claude-haiku-5-5-xhig...
You'll know when the trend stops -> when the intelligence differential between smaller models like 7B starts to grow instead of shrink from 32B models -> that means 7B is getting about as smart as it can get. Then, 32B will follow next, then 70B, etc etc.
We haven't yet seen that at any size AFAIK.
I wouldn't be surprised if less than 1B param equivalent of our brain deals with solving math and writing computer programs and physics and all the things we tend to associate with "intelligence" - especially if you ultra optimized for that, I doubt our brain works like that.
Dealing with the real world, I highly highly doubt it.
Given that humans learn to talk while having encountered a measly number of word instances, and, given enough time, we should always be able to improve on the lottery that is biology, it does seems fairly likely.
> The cost of achieving a given level of AI performance has fallen about 47% per quarter since 2023, or 13× per year. [0]
0. https://epoch.ai/publications/the-plunging-price-of-thought
AI gets cheaper, people use it everywhere. Google searches, for example. Now we want to crack math problems and spend weeks with unreleased models.
If you used GPT-2, it'd be incredibly cheap. You basically can't use it for anything and it's simple to serve.
https://mimo.xiaomi.com/mimo-v2-6
A frontier Ai is cheaper to make than a single 5/6th gen fighter jet, and maybe every fighter jet at this point.
serious bit: if you think about how these smaller models work, at the end of the day it seems that they are now capable of forgetting useless information because they're able to derive it in reasoning allowing models to become smaller at the cost of requiring more reasoning tokens to solve a task.
As such, I do not need to even reach for Haiku, and 4.5 was so inaccurate that it often cost more to do so in the past. Sonnet 5.5/low has been good for this kind of thing, and i didn't even touch thinking tokens or any of that. Opus 5.5 low for questions/repros, medium for implementation, basically never reaching for anything above that anymore. 5.5 has been great, so I'll try Haiku, but don't see myself going out of my way to integrate it.
Opus 5.5 runs 117 tps average on Openrouter, so it must be at least 10-20 tps slower for them to mention. IDK why they mention this as it does not help for marketing though. https://openrouter.ai/anthropic/claude-opus-5.5
This section makes the reader think: why would I not pick Sonnet 5.5 instead of Haiku 5.5?
Was a big fan of Haiku 4.5, though understand why for most Sonnet was the far better option back then.
They’re definitely planning to make the subscriptions API based so they can charge you full price.
This is kind of nuts
I also have an "ask" script that I use daily to ask simple stuff, it can access websearch and webfetch, it's more than enough to parse logs, ask for commands, quick research on the internet, small stuff. https://github.com/mariocesar/dotfiles/blob/main/common/.loc...
I use haiku for things that needs to be quick, have really clear instructions.
Of course it’s not as big, and hence falls-off quicker. I’d consider the 100k a “promotional price” to match Luna’s token pricing while delivering noticeably more intelligence.
used <10% of my 5hr limit on a $100 codex plan.
Planning on doing flash analyses of PRs that impact evals in some way, and then post comments on GitHub whenever there’s flaws in them
( https://evalship.com )
I've been using Luna, but I'll probably switch to Haiku.
I ask:
> how many r's in diminished
It answers:
> Diminished has 1 r.
This is more expensive, but it also looks like it's better enough that it's far more useful.
I also won't be surprised if you look at cost per completed task + wall clock time that it comes out ahead for the majority of what you'd want to actually use it for.
Luna will still be a great option for doing non-engineering tasks super cheaply.
For prompts over 100k tokens it's 5 times more expensive - $0.50 in, $2.50 out.
GDPval-AA v2.1 as of now: 1620
GDPval-AA v2.1 for Haiku 4.5: 735
The 100k tokens pricing makes sense, looks to be a hedge against OpenAI's decisions API and Jev or its open source alternatives that are springing up.
Nice release, congrats to Anthropic.
Did anyone read this? We get free API credits on some plans now
She said she was using Haiku 4.5 because she was advised to be careful with the spending.
I hate that model so much lol.
These are the examples from "Detecting and countering misuse of AI: September 2026" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49647300
Anthropic then says for the above, "we estimate that the uplift provided by Claude was primarily clerical assistance in data analysis, study ideation and design"While doing my best to avoid comment, please note, they're talking about a domain expert in a state research institution using Claude to do paperwork.
What did they save us from? What bioweapons did these filters prevent? From the front matter report,
OK. Sounds serious. "Gain of function research..." but who and why? So this was a researcher inside of some country's national lab ("credible institutional context") doing research on dangerous viruses using Claude for "for editorial assistance in writing up the research."What "uplift" are you providing to scientists working at specialized global BSL-4 labs that already have – and I quote their report - "physical access to such isolates." (as in samples of viruses)? Are we uplifting their grammar?
These "safeguards" are being expanded. The scientists I know can't use Claude for grammar checks or anything serious. You can try it for yourself.
If you block pentest or "other techniques more likely to be used by attackers", then what does "permit a wider range of defensive tasks" even mean?
Any defensive task that's meaningful is almost indistinguishable from legitimate red-teaming that then falls under 'likely to be used by attackers". If only they would just stop nerfing these models, that'd be great. No APT is waiting around for Anthropic's permission, so might as well let us have some cool stuff.
(sadly Mistral Large 4 isn't up to par - but Mistral serves GLM at 130 tps!)